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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« on: February 21, 2009, 03:18:03 pm »
First, you can access your tunes by typing s a v e f i l e s . c o m without the spaces in the URL bar and add the file ID at the end, for example in one of your post there is "files/1987293", then just type the savefile url then files/1987293 . If you got a savefile account you might even access the entire list from there.

Secondly, I did not disallowed savefile because I don't like to download there, I disabled it because I can't even download from there at all. All I get from your songs and DarkBliss' are HTML files, no MP3 at all. I want every song on the site to be downloadable by anyone

And third, it is not the first time you blow up at me or someone else just for such little thing (I said little thing because you should have kept backups of your songs even if they are still accessible on Savefiles). YOu did via PM too and via Audioghost too. Rudeness is agaist the board rules so seeing you can't behave you are banned from the forums.


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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 06:53:55 pm »
I`ll get round to updating all my links throughout the next few weeks Omni.

I think Quade is just a little frustrated, will you consider unbanning him? He`s a great contributor to the forums and I`d hate to see him go?

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 08:11:07 pm »
According to my calculations (read: Microsoft Excel) that means I can upload upto 8-and-a-half minutes, seeing as I always go for 320Kbps when encoding my stuff as mp3. :D

As for the Savefile thing, I don't mind at all; I have my own webspace to use up.

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 09:30:44 pm »
Didn't see that bit on savefiles..but sounds like you can still use the link then.

How do you do that video upload? pressed the YT button but nothing happened. Upload the tune like you would mp3?

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 11:25:02 pm »
Put the YouTube URL inbetween the tags.

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 11:45:00 pm »
I'm not planning to leave that ban on forever. However this morning I was in a hurry because I was writing a long post but Opera crashed and I lost the message, and I didn't set up the ban properly. Right now he can't even view the board at all, which is not what I wanted, because he can't see my reply to his post. I'm tweaking the ban so he just cannot post nor register a 2nd account. I'm thinking about the weekend, meaning it will expire around 6 AM of UK time monday.

As for contributing to the board, I am happy to see people contributing to make the Music 2000/3000/generator community grow. However, no matter how much you contributed, even if you uploaded 1000 songs, has close to 1000 posts, helped other members out, posted tutorials, made or are working on mixes, even new songs, it doesn't mean you are exempt from any rules on the board. Some people seems to think that when someone is one of the greatest member of a community, family, whatever, he can do whatever he wants. Paris Hilton and many other stars is a great example. They will beat down someone, drink and drive, take drugs, and they can get away with it because they are popular and/or did great stuff. Same things for friends. If someone has a friend, he might think that anywhere he goes his friend is exempt of any rules too, same for kids. Well, this is not the case on these boards. It doesn't mean I don't care about people contributions, it's all about being fair and equal for everybody on the board. If a member with no tunes uploaded and very few posts would do the exact same thing, he would get the exact same punishments after two cases.

Now that savefiles thing makes me sick because I wish I could hear Quade and DarkBLiss new stuff. They gotta make their site compatible with all internet browsers, OSes and computers (unless they are restricting people so they have to pay an account?). They also need to get rid of that "deletion of file after certain days". Blocking it sucks but it seemed that it was getting used more and more and I wish the boards were more uniform in the way that every single people can download everyone's songs, not just certain songs. The only solution I would have besides that is to force people who upload songs externally to at least upload a copy of it inside their post too, else their topic is deleted.

As for the Youtube video upload, it isn't really upload. Actually you just do something like this:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO7Q_6p_ej4 Don't put the &fmt=18, though, because it doesn't work.

Also, if people don't know alerady, I contributed a lot to this site, by even starting it up in the first place. I also pay hosting fees and domain name fees, not to mention taking a lot of my time making sure everything is correct on the server and site. If things starts to get out of hand over here, starts leaving for such things and get angry at me like this or if it seems that everything I do is wrong, nothing stops me from deleting TIMGUL altogether, it will just take 5 minutes and everything including songs will be gone for good then I will have the entire diskspace for my other website/forum and other people's.
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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 01:17:21 am »
I totally agree. I wasn`t implying that Quade should be exempt from the rules because of his musical talents, I do think he could have reacted in a slightly better way but then again I can understand his frustration with having to re-upload all of his songs.

I also understand you`re contribution to the site Omni, after all if it wasn`t for you this site wouldn`t exist and I wouldn`t be able to share my music or hear anybody elses. For that reason I`m very thankful which is why I`m willing to re-upload all of my songs.

Anyway, if you`re planning to lift his ban after a few days thats cool, I`m sure things will have settled down a little bit by then.

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 10:42:09 am »
I agree. Its no bother for me to go back and modify my posts and upload direct to the site. The only reason i used mediafire anyway was because of file size( If they were under 6meg they were posted direct).

Im sure it will all come together in time. Just think of how good this board is compared to others..... No ads plastered all over the place, no spam, no flamers/haters. Its because Omni runs it good and sticks to the rules that he set and spends alot of time on it.
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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 12:57:02 pm »
I just read through all the posts and I'ld like to note that it wasnt DarkBliss's material that couldnt be accessed because I could access it just fine, it's just on one such occasion that savefile was down. I also notices that when you put in a savefile link that it only erases the url but not the number code which is the direct link to the tune. Therefore savefile pages can be accessed if you put in the savefile part of the url. I think what is frustrating is that although I do appreciate this site Omni as it's what got me into making tunes in the first place, my main confusion stems from the fact that in one of your previous posts on this topic you have given us a way to get around the savefile text ban, but if this is the case why not just unban it all together and give people both options of posting the link AND uploading directly to the forum, therefore if the savefile link doesn't work they can just download it directly from here.
As for the Quade remark, I fully understand what he is saying as he has posted many a great tune on here and is clearly frustrated at having to repost them all, but banning him straight away was quite the unfair move, he never had the chance to see what you said or had the opportunity for a rebuttle. But that's just me. Again I do appreciate the site and what you have done Omni, I just think the way you went about this was wrong.

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 07:42:22 pm »
Cheers for the response on the YT thing. So I should just do what I have been doing, I thought maybe the video would be added to the post to view straight off.

Appreciate the site loads and that you pay hosting fees etc. TIMGUL is a great site which seems to be a firm favourite amongst members and guests alike. I must admit I haven't downloaded tunes from savefiles as its too much hassle, much prefer a 1 click tune i.e Youtube/Reverbnation. Faster + everyone can access.

Hope Quade reposts tunes in a more friendly format, enjoyed his tunes on YT  :D

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 10:25:43 pm »
I just read through all the posts and I'ld like to note that it wasnt DarkBliss's material that couldnt be accessed because I could access it just fine, it's just on one such occasion that savefile was down. I also notices that when you put in a savefile link that it only erases the url but not the number code which is the direct link to the tune. Therefore savefile pages can be accessed if you put in the savefile part of the url. I think what is frustrating is that although I do appreciate this site Omni as it's what got me into making tunes in the first place, my main confusion stems from the fact that in one of your previous posts on this topic you have given us a way to get around the savefile text ban, but if this is the case why not just unban it all together and give people both options of posting the link AND uploading directly to the forum, therefore if the savefile link doesn't work they can just download it directly from here.
As for the Quade remark, I fully understand what he is saying as he has posted many a great tune on here and is clearly frustrated at having to repost them all, but banning him straight away was quite the unfair move, he never had the chance to see what you said or had the opportunity for a rebuttle. But that's just me. Again I do appreciate the site and what you have done Omni, I just think the way you went about this was wrong.
This was mainly done to convince people to stop posting savefiles links and to update their old ones after the 20 MB cap increase, because I know some people will completly ignore that news article and their new upload cap increase. Not to mention I prefer that every song are avaliable for download for everyone.

As for the ban, at first I misconfigured it so he couldn't see the board at all, but I fixed it afterward so he could at least login/view posts, meaning he could see our replies to his posts. He didn,t got able to reply, obviously, but rules are rules. If you are rude, the reason doesn't matter at all (unless it is toward someone else's causing trouble, like the Demhier/Kallaye incident, altough Kallaye apologised and is all good, now)), you're banned. You have no right to aggress verbally other TIMGUL members. In fact it pretty much goes against the will of most of the TIMGUL userbase. There's no freedom of speech right on the internet. If you register on a board it is a priviledge and you have to agree to a set of guidelines. Not to mention this right could be revoked at any time.

The days of TIMGUL are counted since Quade77 last post. You are all lucky this site even exists at all and seeing how things are turning out with this matter I've been considering shutting down the site altogether
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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 11:15:49 pm »
The net isnt a privilege though man, we respect each other but to talk like that makes you sound like a dictator man, and thats not right. I maybe new but I'm registered on a lot of forums, they are freedom of speech, and to be honest, I wouldnt be surprised if I got banned for this too, but that would just prove my point

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 11:20:52 pm »
Ok, so what do you want? You want me to edit the rules so being rude to people is allowed and everyone can be bashed and no punishments ensues?

Rules are just here to make the community better. It worked pretty well so far. Now there's just Quade being rude which is breaking the rules, so I enforced them. On each forums admins decide what is allowed and what's not. I myself am against being rude to people for almost no reason, so I'm not gonna allow it on my board. If you want to have a Music 2000 forum where you can be rude to other people, then start your own forum. It's easy you just need to sign up an account on http://www.invisionfree.com or http://www.zetaboards.com . Else there's DaveM forums, but there is only one english sub-section and the rest is german.

I am totally at loss now and it really seems you guys are turning back against me or not respect me anymore with these 3 last posts, else, not respecting my will to keep TIMGUL peaceful as it always have been before. Tonight (read: 6 AM UK time) his ban ends, then I will see how things goes. I also disabled the filter on Savefiles.com, but I edited the "how to upload songs" topic about the 20 MB cap and updates regarding external host uploading and the Youtube things. If tomorrow it seems that everyone is still against me because of my board rules, it will means this is the end of TIMGUL and that there's no more hope for it to survive
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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2009, 11:24:24 pm »
The world is full of assholes, you can't take away people's right to be an asshole, I would suggest a "3 strikes and you're out" rule, but yeah we respect that you own the site and such and we do appreciate it, but you can't be a dictator and ban Quade just cos of that remark, because to be honest, it's not even that offending.

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2009, 12:16:05 am »
Ok I understand namakura, it's just that all of a suddent everyone has been negative to me and it's hard for me to see the positive when there is so much negative.

The Lyricist, I could always go with 3 strikes instead of 2. The problem, though, is that this happened many times lately, including via PM (most PM stuff was mostly libel), which is why I took this decision.

And guys please understand that some people take stuff personally more than others. Not understanding or caring about that would make you very narrow minded, because if you don't get offended as easily, it doesn't mean everyone is like you. I was personally extremly sensitive when I was kid, worked on it through elementary school, but suffered a setback by almost 6 years in my first year of high school due to a peak of bullying/harrassment/threats (about 20 people in the class of 28 students were bullying me regulary, since I was put in a class with people with learning trouble, even though I didn't had any) and real life problems. Then I recovered the few following years, but I have been working on all this for 17 years alerady, and I still got a lot of work to do. It takes much longer with some people and if you don't understand that, you are narrow minded and careless about other people. Because I am more sensitive I will try to make sure my community is peaceful. Someone who don't take offense to anything might let users on his board do anything they want. Also I saw many communities fall apart because of fights in my 8 years in the calculator communities and I saw other kind of communities fall apart too. When it was not because of the inactive staff/admins, it was because of fights and nothing done about it.

As you people could see in the past, I didn't even need to moderate on TIMGUL. This is also why there's no other admins and why the community didn't need to split in 4-5 english MTVMG forums yet. All I needed to do is move topics in the right sections or say we didn't shared illegal Music2000 downloads for example. I also leave posts as intact as possible (read: as intact as 1and1.com hosting terms of services allows too and within SMF 1.1.x limitations). NOw I got on the defense because this isn't the first time Quade is rude to someone and while such thing only happened twice in public, this also happened twice via private messaging and there were some libelous claims against Audioghost too, making it 5 times.


Anyway, The Lyricist, do you want to be the root admin of this forum? You seems to know better than me how a forum is run. Maybe Namakura would like to do so, too? With Quade77 too at the admin bar I guess
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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2009, 12:29:19 am »
I don't mind being an admin at all, I feel that the forum would work better with some kind of "council", therefore, if we all agree on something then it can't be split like this and there would be no arguments as all decisions would be final

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2009, 12:32:00 am »
I actually started a new discussion in the othe rtopic in the Feedback section. Personally, my fear is that allowing people to be rude to others without any consequences might cause more bad than good to the community, especially since it's peaceful alerady. Some people might leave and personally if people starts being rude to me like this, I will leave.

I also fear that The Lyricist is advocating free speech simply because in a few months he is planning to be rude and deliberately causing trouble on the forums, or alerady did this on other forums before, because a lot of people did the same before on various forums I visited. I hope it's not the case and just a matter of personal opinion.

EDIT: I missed Namakura post, I just hope you understand that I am more sensitive than others, and you can't change that. You have to accept that everyone is different.

As for the ban, I've been thinking about lifting it right now. I personally don't hold any grudges against Quade77 nor anyone on this forum. The ban was just rule enforcing and the way rules are enforced is now gonna be discussed in the other topic. I do hope Quade will not hold any grudges against me either. If I really did a mistake with this ban and even the savefiles incident, then sorry.

Everyone does mistakes and I think we should forgive each others, else it does no good to each person if they hate each others or to be hated by someone. And again, let's not be narrow minded about people differences. Not accepting that someone can be less sensitive than someone else or vice versa is some sort of bigotry after all
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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2009, 12:34:18 am »
Just leave it now, lets set up some kind of order to stop this happening again and then we can all go back to making great tunes yeah?

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Re: 6 MB upload cap increased to 20 MB
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2009, 12:42:56 am »
Edited my post above, because me and nakamura posted at the same time x.x

I'll lift the ban while you read it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 12:51:07 am »
So where do we stand on the admin positions then?

 

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